Bruce AKA Bix ([info]bismrkbear) wrote,
@ 2005-12-07 00:06:00
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Current mood: curious
Current music:certainly not the Mylo Song since I don't have it
Entry tags:doomsday cults, highschool mates

School Mate, Doomsday Cult Member, Possible Dance Music Artist

I have never been a fan of the Grateful Dead, but one of their lyrics is especially fitting for someone I grew up with. "What a long strange trip it's been" could apply to one of my school mates. If you noticed my subject line, Pokey has definitely been the first two, and could be the third. So how does someone go from small town Northern Minnesota, spend some time in a doomsday cult encampment in Montana, and have a good chance of being the person sampled on a Mylo recording? These are the facts as I know them.

Pokey (I will only refer to him as Pokey since some internet paranoia keeps me from having his full name googled) was a rather nondescript student. Average build, average looks, missing out on his brother's athletic skills, but more than making up with his own charm and humor. I can't remember at this point all of his family members, but I do remember his older brother who was my brother's age and his father, who had just taken up flying a small airplane. One year older than me Pokey was best friends with Bub (yeah, nicknames were popular, and with nicknames like that they just had to be friends.)

 A few years after graduating from High School, Pokey became somewhat lost when his father and older brother died in an airplane accident. During this time of questioning, Pokey asked Bub to join him for a two week vacation in California. It used to be a joke in the late 70's that you should be careful if you go to California because you might get brainwashed by a cult. Pokey's two weeks turned into two years and his return to Minnesota concurred with the opening of a new type of "church" near the University of Minnesota. When I saw him at the drug store I used to work at while at school, he looked like any other student of the time, maybe a little more clean cut, but definitely not a "Moonie" or whatever your vision of what a cultist looks like. He would stop in every few months, invite me to his "church" and I would politely decline.

A few years later his "church" bought a $400,000 mansion on Lake Harriet in Minneapolis. Pokey was quoted in the Strib saying that they didn't feel welcomed in the area. He expanded on this by saying that when new neighbors move into Northern Minnesota, they are met with open arms. Knowing his small town neighbors, and the questionable nature of his "church" I knew that arms he must be referring to were the same ones referred to by the Constitutional Amendment i.e. The Right to Bear....

After the Lake Harriet hubbub, I didn't see Pokey for a few more years. It was the early 80's on the 4th of July when I saw him for the last time. I was standing at the bottom of the hill watching a soap box derby race with Bub's brother Ken when I heard someone yell at us from across the street. There standing by a rather new Corvette was Pokey. He crossed the street between soap box racers to talk to the two of us. His Vette, plus the clothes on his back told me that being a cult member paid much more than I expected. He politely told us that he longer went by the name Pokey, but by his given name. We talked for a few more minutes, watched the fastest soap boxer almost fly into the lake, laughed while she cried to her father, and then said our goodbyes.

That was the last time I saw Pokey. Oh, I heard of some of what was going on in his life. His "church" moved to a heavily armored encampment in Montana. I am not sure if many of his friends know what he is up to these days, if he is up to anything considering the doomsday nature of his cult "church". I have not looked into the cult, fearing what else I might find out about the Cult and it's leader, who I call Clear Profit partly for the resemblance to what she calls herself, and partly for the importance to the bottom line I see in her "church".

 Fast forward to a few months ago. I was listening to Sirius BBC Radio 1 which played the latest song by Mylo. It consisted of someone chanting the names of '80's Pop Star over a cut-up beat. I was intrigued, but couldn't find the song anywhere. Fast forward again to tonight. I was reading Get Your Bootleg On, The Chat when I found out the connection between Mylo and Pokey

It seems the "church" used to chant the name of various 80's pop stars to highlight the depravity found in the world that they could rise above through their chants. This obscure recording of the chant found it's way on a Negativland recording, and a version or possibly a rerecording of the chant are on the Mylo song. From the description of the chanted voice in GYBO, plus my recollection of the Mylo song, there is a possibility that the voice might be Pokeys. When Pokey and I were in school, it took a modicum of musical talent to be a pop music star. Today all it takes is to lose family member in a plane crash, join a cult in California, Move to increasingly controversial encampments in Minnesota and Montana, chant pop stars names, have said chant "appropriated" by Negativland, and have said Negativland recording "appropriated" by Mylo. I am sure Pokey would be surprised by this strange twist of fate, although I am not even sure if he is off this earth to enjoy his possible stardom.



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[info]arthole
2005-12-07 06:29 am UTC (link)
If Pokey is the one reciting the names, he mispronounces (I assume he's reading) David Boo-wee and Cyndi Looper.

Boy, that Scandal featuring Patti Smythe sure did lead kids down the wrong path...

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[info]bismrkbear
2005-12-07 06:51 am UTC (link)
I have only heard it once, and not since reading the connection between the cult that Pokey was/is a member of and the Mylo song, so I am not sure. I do know that he was high up in the Clear Profit (My name for the leader) cult and I could see him being the person leading the chant. Also of note, the few times that David Bowie was played on the radio in this area BEFORE Pokey became a member of the cult, his name was often pronounced Boowie. His voice is also compared to Rick Moranis in the thread. Sometimes the Northern Minnesota accent is compared to the Canadian Accent.

Sometimes the connections I see from being online freak me completely. TimBearCub responded to the doomsday cult thread on GYBO. This is of course after you introduced him to us on LJ and after I have already downloaded a few of his mash-ups, most recently the Radio Gaga one.

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[info]fingertrouble
2005-12-08 06:15 pm UTC (link)
I have been looking for that sample for years since I heard it in 1993 on Negativland's LP - asked Dog (as in Phil n' Dog - Dr Pressure - knows Myles aka Mylo) to ask what it was, but lancelockarm posts shortly after on a totally unrelated incident...

I feel I somehow I was intended to hear this; the way it all fell in place.

I have a proper CD copy of Escape From Noise; not heard the Mylo track properly (it is a re-record anyway) and now have the original. It's odd.

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[info]gotmoof
2005-12-07 08:27 am UTC (link)
Did these people learn nothing from David Koresh and lil George Bushy?

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[info]bismrkbear
2005-12-07 04:18 pm UTC (link)
This group was in Montana before Koresh and his implosion. I do have some new evidence that Pokey is still alive, but not sure of his mental state with regards to the "church". I do want to get the Mylo song and possibly the Negativland thing so I can try to detect if it is him. If verified, it would be a fun thing to play at our next class reunion.

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[info]fingertrouble
2005-12-08 06:11 pm UTC (link)
I have this on MP3 now...the coincidences on this get even odder.

was originally used on Negativland; the rest of the LP is a weird sort of sub-biphonic throat-singing which parodoxically is like a 50 minute experimental piece I did once using the sound of that dentist mouth-hoover thingy and noise reduction FFT...weirdly hypnotic. Distinctly odd.

Apparently they re-recorded the vocal (with mispronounciations intact) - I guess to avoid rabid ex-cult members knocking down Myles's door. Glad I found it tho.

Let me know if you need...

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[info]bismrkbear
2005-12-08 07:58 pm UTC (link)
Oh I need it, and I need the Mylo too if I can find it. Talk about coincidences with this whole thing. I come from a town of about 500 people. So if you look into the odds that a person from that small group could be involved in such a bizarre situation, that leads to music being made that I chance to on satellite radio from London, and the chance reading of a thread on GYBO. By another chance, I was healthily skeptical of Pokey and his "church" so I did not attend any of his events, thus placing me here talking about it, instead of being talked about.

Oh... I still feel honored to have you reply to my post. After all you have been immortalized in a cartoon on GYBO.

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[info]fingertrouble
2005-12-08 08:30 pm UTC (link)
hehehe long story behind that - let's just say I think I've made peace between the cartoonist and myself - any current spats is playground vs what we used to get upto, sadly...I'm too old for that stupid shit now.

BTW Can I mention this on Radio Clash? Or keep it vague? Certainly it's too odd to miss; but I's understand if you wanted me to not link here or mention you by name. I want to chart briefy the strange history of that sample.

The Mylo is called "Destroy Rock and Roll" btw.

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[info]bismrkbear
2005-12-08 09:11 pm UTC (link)
You can mention this on Radio Clash, which I have to get around to subscribing to one of these days. You can keep it vague or get more specific, for instance I haven't mentioned the name of the small home town, but like me Pokey was born in Grand Rapids, the home town of Judy Garland (also the place where the ruby slippers were stolen this year). If I see angels coming to get me and save me from this hedonistic music I can blame it on the internet.

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[info]fingertrouble
2005-12-09 02:15 am UTC (link)
well if you'd subscribed you'd have heard that Negativland track before :-D

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